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« on: January 08, 2012, 03:23:41 PM »

I can see I might get some grief for this, but here goes anyway.

So I'm reading this story, 'Economic horizons darken for ANC-ruled South Africa', and a lot of it sounds familiar:

"critics say it has done more to enrich its leading members and allies than to help the poor ... At the weekend, it will hold a lavish birthday bash to celebrate .. with a golf tournament, banquets and concerts by the biggest stars ... Critics say President Jacob Zuma, an ANC veteran and political backstreet brawler both before and since taking office in 2009, has been a virtual bystander when it comes to tackling the country's deep social and economic problems ... South Africa has some of the world's most rigid labor laws, one of its least productive workforces and a broken school system that is staggeringly bad at educating its students, given the money spent on it. ... Zuma faces a party leadership election. Despite a leadership style criticized as lacking vision and ineffectual, he is widely expected to garner enough support in the fractious party to win a second term as party chief and then stay on as national president ... Many of these jobs will not come back because labor has priced itself out of the market. ... South Africa adopted rigid labor laws in large part because of the governing alliance between the ANC and the major union federation COSATU, a pact which was formed in the anti-apartheid struggle and continued after the ANC formed a government. Zuma and other ANC leaders have tried to keep COSATU and its 2 million members close to them, not wanting to alienate a major source of votes by enacting labor reforms ... While joblessness looks set to rise, so too does the country's growing debt as pressure mounts on the ANC to open the taps ... The budget is already under strain to pay the wages of more than 1 million civil servants, many of whom belong to COSATU-affiliated unions. ... Improvements the ANC has made so far have not satisfied the poor black majority, which sees progress as too slow and complains of incompetent local officials. ... The country has also slid in Transparency International's highly regarded gauge of perceived corruption ... 'The problem is the leaders. They must deliver, They are corrupt', said Soweto resident Mzwandile Sifile, expressing a widely held view. Corruption has also undermined investor confidence. There is also growing anger with ANC economic empowerment policies that were nominally designed to reverse apartheid era curbs that had largely shut blacks out of the economy. Many see the programs as benefiting just a few people with ANC connections. COSATU has said they have lined the pockets of a corrupt 'predator elite'."

Sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it?

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 06:08:05 PM »

It certainly does!


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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 06:50:10 PM »

I would be interested in hearing of a country that does not have (at least) some corruption in it's political ranks, currently or historically. It's as if on election to power, access is gained to the Candy Store, and no-one can keep their thieving mits of the goodies on the shelves.

Most crucially, it appears to echo the position in Zimbabwe, in that Mugabe lives in gold plated luxury, while his people starve, inflation continues to rocket - and yet they vote him back in. Are Black people so apathetic?

Bermuda has similarities too, with more than it's fair share of apathy. And, of course, it is not just apathy that we have in common with South Africa or Zimbabwe.

 
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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 06:58:06 PM »

It certainly does!


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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 09:23:16 PM »

I would be interested in hearing of a country that does not have (at least) some corruption in it's political ranks, currently or historically. It's as if on election to power, access is gained to the Candy Store, and no-one can keep their thieving mits of the goodies on the shelves.

Most crucially, it appears to echo the position in Zimbabwe, in that Mugabe lives in gold plated luxury, while his people starve, inflation continues to rocket - and yet they vote him back in. Are Black people so apathetic?

Bermuda has similarities too, with more than it's fair share of apathy. And, of course, it is not just apathy that we have in common with South Africa or Zimbabwe.

 

Seriously?  A "genetic predisposition" to apathy? 

And before you try to spin it as something else - what do most blacks in Zimbabwe have in common with most blacks in Bermuda other than...?  Sounds like ya need a smack upside the head
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2012, 10:09:24 PM »

I would be interested in hearing of a country that does not have (at least) some corruption in it's political ranks, currently or historically. It's as if on election to power, access is gained to the Candy Store, and no-one can keep their thieving mits of the goodies on the shelves.

Most crucially, it appears to echo the position in Zimbabwe, in that Mugabe lives in gold plated luxury, while his people starve, inflation continues to rocket - and yet they vote him back in. Are Black people so apathetic?

Bermuda has similarities too, with more than it's fair share of apathy. And, of course, it is not just apathy that we have in common with South Africa or Zimbabwe.

 

Seriously?  A "genetic predisposition" to apathy? 

And before you try to spin it as something else - what do most blacks in Zimbabwe have in common with most blacks in Bermuda other than...?  Sounds like ya need a smack upside the head


Thanks for an erudite contribution there.
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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2012, 10:42:13 PM »

I would be interested in hearing of a country that does not have (at least) some corruption in it's political ranks, currently or historically. It's as if on election to power, access is gained to the Candy Store, and no-one can keep their thieving mits of the goodies on the shelves.

Most crucially, it appears to echo the position in Zimbabwe, in that Mugabe lives in gold plated luxury, while his people starve, inflation continues to rocket - and yet they vote him back in. Are Black people so apathetic?

Bermuda has similarities too, with more than it's fair share of apathy. And, of course, it is not just apathy that we have in common with South Africa or Zimbabwe.

 

Seriously?  A "genetic predisposition" to apathy? 

And before you try to spin it as something else - what do most blacks in Zimbabwe have in common with most blacks in Bermuda other than...?  Sounds like ya need a smack upside the head


Thanks for an erudite contribution there.

Well I could have just called you an asshole instead, but clearly the esteemed member is neither an ass nor a hole
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2012, 11:09:26 PM »

Before this escalates into something nasty, kindly refrain from those kinds of personal comments please.
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