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This is from my e-moo email.... National Heroes Day in Bermuda - Come and join us
National Heroes Day in Bermuda Bermuda Remembers the Hon. Dame Lois Browne-Evans, DBE, JP, LLB, 1927-2007 The event begins at 3:00pm on Sunday 12 October 2008, at Bermuda's National Stadium. On Monday, 13 October, 2008, Dame Lois will become Bermuda's First National Hero (See Flyer Below) A Nation stands on her shoulders..  !!! Howzat??!! BWAA HA-HA-HA-HAAA!!  We are not a nation yet for starters.... How the plp can insist on continually putting this poor unfulfilled woman front and centre, I'll never know (maybe she's all they got) -- she'd be rolling in her grave if she knew what was going on today!! And now the woman's being made the Country's first "National" Hero...?! Next they'll be putting up a memorial statue to her (probably in the works)... I know, and put it in the "Economic Empowerment Area." How shallow... how divisive... how ignorant can you get. The woman had NO POWER and was NEVER ELECTED Premier. She was a poor lawyer and the leader of the Opposition, for cripes sakes... certainly NOT a hero in many, many, many people's minds!! I doubt if many whites will show up for the BIG day... but that's the whole idea isn't it... to further marginalize whites in this Country.    |
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2008, 01:27:25 PM » |
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"The woman had NO POWER and was NEVER ELECTED..." ... oh sorry, I thought you were talking about The Queen of England there... They scrapped her holiday didn't they? Isn't that what the "National Heroes Day" is supposed to replace? Ironic really, replacing one waste of space with another! BWAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!  SevenT....... |
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2008, 03:31:51 PM » |
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A Nation stands on her shoulders.. !!! Howzat??!! BWAA HA-HA-HA-HAAA!! We are not a nation yet for starters.... How the plp can insist on continually putting this poor unfulfilled woman front and centre, I'll never know (maybe she's all they got) -- she'd be rolling in her grave if she knew what was going on today!! And now the woman's being made the Country's first "National" Hero...?! Next they'll be putting up a memorial statue to her (probably in the works)... I know, and put it in the "Economic Empowerment Area." How shallow... how divisive... how ignorant can you get. The woman had NO POWER and was NEVER ELECTED Premier. She was a poor lawyer and the leader of the Opposition, for cripes sakes... certainly NOT a hero in many, many, many people's minds!! I doubt if many whites will show up for the BIG day... but that's the whole idea isn't it... to further marginalize whites in this Country. A couple of points, mysticman: I'm not sure what you mean by 'poor and unfulfilled'. Surely, you must agree that she accomplished much during her lifetime? I do agree with you, however, that the PLP's continual referencing of her memory is a crass political ploy to link the kleptocracy of today's PLP to the Party's well-intentioned, corruption-free past. As to whether it is appropriate to name her as a National Hero, I can only repeat what I wrote when it was first announced that there was to be a 'National Heroes Day': I do not think that it is ever appropriate for a Government to effectively legislate the hero-worship of a political figure, regardless of their political persuasion, particularly a political figure as controversial as Lois Browne-Evans. People seem to forget that there are many in the community - particularly police officers and their families, as well as the families of those that died in the 1977 riots - who never forgave her for what they saw as her role in instigating the riots in the first place. Whether she did, in fact, have a role in instigating the riots is something that I shall never personally know for sure, but there are plenty of people, who witnessed her actions first-hand, who certainly do believe that she did. This is why you don't legislate the hero-worship of political figures. |
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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2008, 03:55:24 PM » |
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A couple of points, mysticman:
I'm not sure what you mean by 'poor and unfulfilled'. Surely, you must agree that she accomplished much during her lifetime? I do agree with you, however, that the PLP's continual referencing of her memory is a crass political ploy to link the kleptocracy of today's PLP to the Party's well-intentioned, corruption-free past. As to whether it is appropriate to name her as a National Hero, I can only repeat what I wrote when it was first announced that there was to be a 'National Heroes Day': I do not think that it is ever appropriate for a Government to effectively legislate the hero-worship of a political figure, regardless of their political persuasion, particularly a political figure as controversial as Lois Browne-Evans. People seem to forget that there are many in the community - particularly police officers and their families, as well as the families of those that died in the 1977 riots - who never forgave her for what they saw as her role in instigating the riots in the first place. Whether she did, in fact, have a role in instigating the riots is something that I shall never personally know for sure, but there are plenty of people, who witnessed her actions first-hand, who certainly do believe that she did. This is why you don't legislate the hero-worship of political figures.
I approve this post. Been there, done that, ...She had many firsts which she deserved and worked hard for. It's what she did with this knowledge and community support that I will never forgive her for. And, it lives on today as can be seen by and from the players of the 60's-70's that rallied against Colonial rule that now rule. I need a rum....Thanks Lokes for not letting memories or thoughts be burried once more. Two sides to each story and I know them both, quite well. |
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2008, 04:22:28 PM » |
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Well well well...loks like Admin or someone with "no-Ledge" has ammended my post. Not literally but for viewers. Thanks...I'll get it one day..but don't be such a smart ass about it.....woofies too yoo........  |
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2008, 10:18:34 AM » |
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Sorry, I've been away guys for the past couple of days... my life beckoned...
My feelings about this woman are well known. I shall not be celebrating this day in her honor...
more likely I will be singing that famous song from The Wizard of Oz...
"Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead."
The sentiments expressed in this post are those of the poster and do not necessarily represent those of BIAW or of its members.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 12:29:20 PM » |
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Mysty, you got a mention! http://plp.bm/node/1542Funny, I'm not a partisan, nor are some others. Evidently, we are all grouped together here. At least he quoted you verbatim. Personally, I have a family connection with the Dame and always admired her for some of her accomplishments. I do, however, think there should be some others considered before her. I agree with Loki's position that we shouldn't use political figures. |
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 02:06:27 PM » |
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STIR IT UP... STIR IT UP!!!I'm truly flattered! Glad to see they are reading around.... I like this part best: "Their race-based insult in full (we don't believe in linking to such hate):" BWAA HA-HA-HA-HAAA!! Why is everything "race-based hate" to these jokers...??! I suppose because the plp are virtually all black, they take advantage of the fact that they can get away with calling any criticism of their political race-based ignorance as "race-based hate" from "UBP partisans." Such a shameful approach. But it is really only their OPINION. To repeat, I don't feel that "the Dame" was a hero at all. And a hell of a lot of Bermudians agree with me. I feel that all the fuss over "the Dame" is simply a plp POLITICAL ruse, specifically designed by the carpetbagger & his henchmen to marginalize whites on the Island -- and support the last year of the Grand Slam by giving Bermudians a bogus holiday to attend the match! And they fucking well know it!! BTW, the plp and "the Dame," at the time, denounced all Queen bestowed honours! And look who flaunts the the Queen's Honours now! HYPOCRITES!!! The inmates are running the fucking asylum!!   And while I'm at it... I wonder how many visitors our grandiose Music Festival is gonna bring in? Too bad there's no hotel rooms for them! And only Rick knows the real numbers... and we all know where his allegiance is....
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 02:13:38 PM » |
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BTW, the plp and "the Dame," at the time, denounced all Queen bestowed honours! And look who flaunts the the Queen's Honours now! HYPOCRITES!!! The inmates are running the fucking asylum!! She may have denounced everything Colonial, but she clung to that honour like a drowning man clings to a stick. What a jerk!!! Clearly she never had the courage of her "so-called" convictions... and for that we need to to make her a hero... Oh silly me... why didn't I see that.. [puke]Blaauugghh[/puke] |
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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2008, 09:57:39 AM » |
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Mysty, you got a mention! http://plp.bm/node/1542Funny, I'm not a partisan, nor are some others. Evidently, we are all grouped together here. At least he quoted you verbatim. Personally, I have a family connection with the Dame and always admired her for some of her accomplishments. I do, however, think there should be some others considered before her. I agree with Loki's position that we shouldn't use political figures. I find it laughable that the Third-Rate Spinmesiter General thinks that he can accuse anyone of racism when the official PLP site continues to promote the racist writings of Vance Chapman, son of PLP Central Committee member Laverne Furbert. |
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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2008, 10:25:18 AM » |
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Mysty, you got a mention! http://plp.bm/node/1542Funny, I'm not a partisan, nor are some others. Evidently, we are all grouped together here. At least he quoted you verbatim. Personally, I have a family connection with the Dame and always admired her for some of her accomplishments. I do, however, think there should be some others considered before her. I agree with Loki's position that we shouldn't use political figures. I find it laughable that the Third-Rate Spinmesiter General thinks that he can accuse anyone of racism when the official PLP site continues to promote the racist writings of Vance Chapman, son of PLP Central Committee member Laverne Furbert. Loki, you didn't expect him to stop being a hypocrite, did you? Politics in general is all about expediency that serves the group making the decisions. Since the PLP maintains its hold on power by keeping the focus on "racial" issues, don't expect them to change any time soon. We have at least another ten years of them, probably longer since education isn't being fixed any time soon. |
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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2008, 10:52:12 AM » |
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Even if you're not old enough to remember her role in the riots you do have to recognize one thing. As long as I can remember, the PLP was adamant that their supporters should turn down any honours such as titles and so forth. Even though I never agreed with her (and was generally completely unimpressed) I thought she had enough class to stand by that. Obviously I was wrong. And she became "the Dame".
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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2008, 12:58:20 PM » |
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I wonder who could be chosen as a "Bermuda hero" that we ALL could agree on. Well, maybe not ALL agree on -- that's maybe a little much to ask -- but at least the chosen person, be s/he white or black, should be 'generally' acceptable by both black and white Bermudians. Any suggestions...??  |
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"The OBA may believe that innuendo, deception and deflection are effective ways to hide the truth, but what is done in the dark will be revealed in the light."
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